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3 Minute Statement - Carbon Pricing

01-March-2011

 

Mr COULTON (Parkes) (10.55 am)—It seems to be my lot in life to tend to follow the member for Dobell with my speeches in this place, but it is quite appropriate. The member for Dobell typifies the absolute fantasy and fallacy that surrounds the debate we are having at the moment. I would like the member for Dobell and others opposite to explain to the people who are having troubles with storms how these storms will stop. How will the temperature of the earth decrease by expecting pensioners to pay more for their power? After all the discussion that we have had in the last couple of years, but more particularly in the last few days since the coalition of Labor, the Greens and the fringe dwellers of parliament got themselves together under the mantle and great leadership of Bob Brown, we are going to once again discuss issues about cooling the globe. I want to know how making people pay extra for things will change the temperature of the globe. We have used woosie words about being prepared.
 
The member for Dobell spoke in a sanctimonious and self-righteous manner, and he is a member who represents a completely concreted and swamp-filled area. If you look geographically you will see that the Greens tend to support and congregate in concreted, altered environments and the methods of amelioration that they propose are generally in areas where they do not live. They are expecting pensioners in my electorate—where there is no public transport, where it is 45 degrees in summer and where it freezes in the winter—to go without electricity. If you are a fixed income earner, you have no choice but to turn off the switch. We hear Bob Brown talk about the big polluters. News flash: we are the polluters. When you have an aluminium can of soft drink, you have created the pollution. Someone else has done the work, but that is yours. Electricity generators are there because of your use. If you are on a fixed income or you have a small business, you need to turn that off.
 
I want members opposite to explain to small business owners—corner stores, convenience stores, small independent supermarkets, butchers and all those sorts of people in their electorates—why they have to pay more for their electricity to improve the weather that we live under. I have not heard anyone explain that. We are going down the path of that great fable The Emperor’s New Clothes and it is about time that we started to show a bit of wisdom and call this what it is.

Comments

# Peter Windeyer
Friday, March 11, 2011 12:54 PM
I may not be seeing the big picture on carbon tax, but as I see it the carbon producing industries will pay a tax for the priviledge of operating. They will not add it to their bottom line - they will increase the price of their finished product to keep the status quo and the shareholders happy. The government will then set up yet another beauracracy to administer the tax. The Prime Minister has advised us she will redistribute all the tax to people on lower incomes so they will not be disadvantaged. So middle Australia pays the price one more time. Unemployment will increase and we will lose more industries overseas. Is this too simplistic a view?
# Pam Davis
Friday, March 11, 2011 1:34 PM
The whole thing about 'carbon' being a pollutant anyway is a big hoax. They should be calling it 'carbon dioxide' tax, they are not calling it CD because a lot of people think 'carbon monoxide' and this is confusing which is what is intended. The Greens are always talking about 'sustainability' but it is the beauracracy needed to conduct all these new departments (where the jobs will be - jobs for the government) that is truly unsustainable.
China and India which have no carbon dioxide tax would be laughing at the ludicrous government here because it will advantage them even more and put us at a greater disadvantage in the world economy.
# Maurice
Monday, March 28, 2011 7:17 PM
Hmmm
Time for Common Sense 101
Extreme and ignorant comments and labels
1."I want to know how making people pay extra for things will change the temperature of the globe"
This is called a price signal in economics Mark.If the price of a anything including a pollutant is increased it encourages people to minimize its use and to seek out less expensive alternatives-e.g cleaner and more efficient appliances and transport alternatives(buses!You could organize this!) for example. Less generation of CO2 will reduce its warming effect. The temperature of the globe has risen 0.5 degree (to 15.5 deg) as carbon dioxide levels have risen from 320 to 390 ppm in the last 40 years.
2"They are expecting pensioners in my electorate—where there is no public transport, where it is 45 degrees in summer and where it freezes in the winter—to go without electricity."Electricity prices rose by 30% in the past 2 years-what did you say about that??So now they will go WITHOUT if theres a compensated rise from a carbon tax. Not worthy of debating. Reductio ad absurdem(look it up!). Also not worthy of a parliamentarian
3."We hear Bob Brown talk about the big polluters. News flash: we are the polluters!! "Correct -we are the end users. The Greens say recycle it Mark!!-it only takes 5% of the energy to make a new aluminium can from bauxite.You seem ignorant of this.
4"The member for Dobell spoke in a sanctimonious and self-righteous manner, and he is a member who represents a completely concreted and swamp-filled area". That is just plain abuse and not worthy of comment but it DOES tell me a lot about YOU!
If anything YOU seem to be the self-righteous and sanctimonious one!
# Jennifer
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:58 PM
Maurice, Maurice, Maurice, you Sir are either an A-Grade buffoon or tum podem extulit horridulum (look it up).
1) Please advise how people in Mark's electorate seek less expensive alternatives ie buses when they live 200 kilometres from the nearest town. Unfortunately out that way they don't have the fortune of living in Newtown where earth-loving buses are just a short stroll away.
2) I think you'll find Mark had plenty to say about that, in fact you could say it has been an issue run ad nauseum (look it up). The issue of compensation defeats the argument you raised in point 1 - if people are compensated ipso facto (look it up) their behaviour will not change.
3) Ahhh, and here it is. "The Greens say...." And so begins yet another infantile and partisan argument. The Greens also say boycott Israel and remove restrictions on illegal immigration.
4) You suddenly seem to have a very thin skin?
I look forward to your reply Maurice. In the meantime I will enjoy all the fruits a carbon-laden lifestyle affords.

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